Posts by Anony Mous

Anyway, quit whatever you're doing in the congregation. Tell them you're stressed out or getting too old or whatever. You're doing the right thing. Tell your wife how relieved you feel now that this load is off your shoulders. Tell her about the judicial committee's and the long hours and that you need to get it off your heart. Tell her how you felt the load of Jesus was no longer light and that you don't think you should've had the authority to judge and how it REALLY works (the backstabbing, the democracy, the politics)

Tell your wife you want to do more as a family, whatever interest that may be.

Have (as said) a family study based on the Bible, show her how Acts really should be interpreted and the verses mentioned above, start somewhere there and work towards it. If she's sensitive esp. about women's issues, you could also later go into Leviticus, Judges (eg. 19 & 20) and ask why all the slaughtering was necessary for God.

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Local Congo WTF - someone's funeral

by Anony Mous in

so yesterday the meeting got cancelled.

i was wondering why, finally got to her the coboe's wife died.

interesting... i didn't know he was the pastor.

Anony Mous

You can get rooms here for $49/day or less if you're making arrangements (online) and stay for a while. Even the better hotels are $100-$150. We're not living in Manhattan and as I said, the community is relatively poor.

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Will the relatively increasing number of non-American, non-white witnesses have an effect on the Watchtower?

by dgp in

on another thread ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/post/edit/12/4103481) i asked what the watchtower corporate ladder would be like, and whether brothers from non-english speaking countries could conceivably make it to the governing body.. as a result of the answers i got, i thought that, if i understand things correctly, most witnesses around the world basically live in three countries: the united states, mexico and brazil.

since real growth is happening mostly in brazil and mexico, rather than the us, i would expect that, sooner or later, the relative weight of brothers from those two countries would need to show.. whoever manages the watchtower in either sao paulo or mexico city (which are ranked eighth and ninth largest metropolitan areas in the world, according to the wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_urban_areas_by_population) has much more real weight than the branch overseers in several european countries (according to the same source, moscow is the largest metropolitan area in europe, and it has seven million fewer people than either sao paulo or mexico city).. what do you guys think?

can you speculate whether this will have an effect?.

Anony Mous

American black Witnesses imho are more lax and less uptight than American white Witnesses. European, Latin and African Witnesses have far less respect for the "fundamental Christian" (American) doctrine and like to believe that respectively scientific facts, family bonds and rituals can overshadow their faith.

I've been an active Witness in all situations (raised in Europe, preached in African communities, vacationed in Latin countries and am currently living in the US) and that's my viewpoint on it.

Will there ever be a token Mexican like there is a token Black Guy? Yes there will be however just as the current token his opinion won't count for very much as it still would be 5 to 2 (and in doctrinal matters, it IS a democracy but only among those 7 guys). Maybe when they include more 'foreign' influence, they'll expand the GB to 9 or 11 (predominantly white, American) people - they've been hinting at that in their most recent books and publications - "the apostles and older men in Jerusalem as the Governing Body" is a phrase I've been hearing more instead of "Governing Body in the First Century Christian Congregation". So the white men will be the apostles and the slaves non-white remains will be the older men.

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Local Congo WTF - someone's funeral

by Anony Mous in

so yesterday the meeting got cancelled.

i was wondering why, finally got to her the coboe's wife died.

interesting... i didn't know he was the pastor.

Anony Mous

So yesterday the meeting got cancelled. I was wondering why, finally got to her the COBOE's wife died. Interesting... I didn't know he was the pastor. Anyway, maybe they're starting to show their love and compassion. I feel sorry for him and his son, I mean it's hard. But the WTF's are:

Today I get a call: Mous, we're looking for people to have some of COBOE's family stay at some friends' houses. Have any rooms? I'm like: Did COBOE's family run out of money? I don't have place, I have a house that fits me and my family, I don't have 'extra' rooms, hardly anybody in this neighborhood does.

WTF's:

- The dude drives around in a Jaguar. His wife drove around in a Mercedes E-class. His son is a full-time pioneer, full-time employee AND a full-time student at a local ($50k base tuition) University and daddy gave him a brand new car, off the lot, fully paid.

- The meeting got cancelled because his wife died. Although tragic, I've never heard of it. It's not like she was the first lady of the church. A few people have died over the last few months, the meetings never got called.

- The dude had a "sister" stay at his house last night to "help" him with the arrangements. I know if I had a "sister" stay at my house last night, I would've been DF'ed before dawn.

- Him and his family are rich (biatch - he looks kinda like Dave Chappelle) and do not hide that fact. His family members vacationing do not come in ragged up cars. Even rentals are nothing less than a Buick. Sonny boy although a piosneer that you hardly see in service and is a bit on the 'sweet' side goes to NYC (about 8-10 hours away) to buy not-so-cheap suits from the boutique's. But you're going to burden the 'friends' in our already fairly poor community to have some of your 'underprivileged' wife's family stay instead of your (all faithful JW) family letting them share or pay part for their hotel rooms?

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Last Sunday's WT Study Set My Mother Off

by headisspinning in

did anyone catch any points in sunday's wt study that might have set my other off in regard to associating with non-jws?.

here's the deal.... my youngest sister is in the process of a fade.

my family knows she doesn't go to the kh anymore and that she is seriously dating a 'worldly' guy and very close to being engaged.. my parents have planned a weekend getaway for the family (exclusing us of course) and my mother indicated that the boyfriend would be included (although of course separate bedrooms).. then all of a sudden she called my sister today and said something was said in the wt study and so now she is not comfortable with him coming.

Anony Mous

If you knew nothing better, you would think they're creating another Jonestown with these kinds of articles.

The problem is that the R&F is too stupid to follow the right instructions so they would get the kool-aid and forget the water.

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What scripture do the JWs use to justify not partaking of the bread and wine?

by Caedes in

i don't have any jw reference books or cds apart from a copy of the nwt.. can anyone tell me what scriptures the jws use to justify not partaking of the bread and wine at the memorial?.

terry mentioned this topic in a thread which i wouldn't want to derail..

Anony Mous

I may be partaking next April. In Yo Face.

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Well I have a choice to make

by Igot2bme in

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the elders came today without any notice and visited with me.

they told me that my mother in law said i didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore.

i said yes i did say that and then i laid it all out for them why i felt that jehovah god wasn't with them.

Anony Mous

Don't give them a letter, make them prove that you are doing wrong by their rules (2 eye witnesses etc.) and make it very hard when they do disfellowship you

1) appeal, then they have to go through the whole spiel again

2) talk to all your friends and ask them if you can say something in confidence, then just tell them what's going on and why you feel unfairly treated

3) write an op-ed article in the local paper about disfellowshipping and how it makes you feel

4) when they say you're finally disfellowshipped ask them when they'll announce it, then show up before the announcement and loudly declare:

I am holding to my position that the witnesses in my case were false witnesses, that the trial was illegal and the judgment erroneous. You are false teachers like the pharisees, rather sticking to rigid rules than letting love lead you. May God have mercy on you.

Whenever they DF me, I'll do that.

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Does anyone know what the Watchtower's corporate ladder would be like?

by dgp in

i was wondering if anyone knows how a brother would make his way up to the governing body.

in my (worldly) opinion, there has to be something like a corporate ladder to climb.

does anyone know what the "procedure" would be?.

Anony Mous

It's fairly easy but you have to be able to put up with the boredom of their existence and you would also have to cut out your conscience and sear it very well to be able to ignore abuse, disfellowship victims, exhonerate perpetrators, let your children die and treat women like shit.

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Non JW's and DF's JWS

by Lynnie in

my uber witness cousin has 3 daughters, 2 that are very much jw's and one that isn't (she never went for it at all).

how does it work that he can see his way clear to have an almost normal relationship with her even though she's living "in sin" with a man and has several times in the past and she also has dabbled in drugs along the way.

i thought you weren't supposed to hang out with fornicators???

Anony Mous

The non-contact clause of JW's doesn't apply to worldy people or 'otherwise you would have to get out of this world' as Paul said. It does apply to ex-JW's for some reason since they "know they are sinning".

Asked the same question to the elderelites a few days ago.